Wednesday, July 02, 2008

McCain officially endorses California Marriage ban


Well I guess this is not much of a surprise, but I was really hoping that the old guy would realize that the very people from whom he wants a little love, cannot ever be appeased ---- at least not for good. They will always want more.


And it is this point that should scare the beJebus out of Americans who value their privacy and civil rights. Today it is gays and lesbians who’ve got the bulls-eye on their backs, but tomorrow it could be Mr. or Ms. American Apple Pie. These self-appointed gatekeepers of everyone else’s morals are never going to stop sticking their noses in our private lives - never.


And as for Mr. McCain – he has gone from being someone that I had great respect for to someone who turns my stomach. I cannot stand the sight of him. So since I cannot say anything even remotely nice about the guy, let me end with a quote from Andrew talking about McCain’s recent appearance on Ellen DeGeneres’ show:


He was nice to her on her show. But he wants to revoke her civil right to marry one person, while he has legally married twice. But that isn't discrimination, is it? And he's still a good guy, right? Nothing personal: he just thinks we're inferior.

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6 comments:

Evan McLaren said...

It's hard to portray everyone who isn't pro gay marriage as homophobic. Especially if they happen to be gay.

http://www.takimag.com/site/article/gay_marriage_sucks/

seithman said...

And it is this point that should scare the beJebus out of Americans who value their privacy and civil rights. Today it is gays and lesbians who’ve got the bulls-eye on their backs, but tomorrow it could be Mr. or Ms. American Apple Pie. These self-appointed gatekeepers of everyone else’s morals are never going to stop sticking their noses in our private lives - never.

More people need to struggle with that reality.

seithman said...

Actually, Evan, I have no problem with portraying Justin Raimondo as homophobic. He may may well be gay, but his article makes it clear that he's as eager to repeat and buy into every negative stereotype about gay men and lesbians as his straight counterparts and base an entire argument on it. That doesn't quit being homophobia just because the perpetrator happens to be gay.

Evan McLaren said...

The problem is that Raimondo is precisely not eager to repeat stereotypes. He's quite comfortable with the idea of gay lifestyle and views it as wholly legitimate. His reasons for opposing the prevalent worldview of the gay lobby, whatever their rational merits, aren't at all rooted in anything that could plausibly be referred to as homophobia. I don't think anyone should be able to dismiss him as merely derivative of a hatred and intolerance without blushing in embarrassment.

seithman said...

From his article:

Homosexuality, after all, is really all about the avoidance of marriage – and the responsibility of raising a family. It is the embrace of sensuality for its own sake, as an instrument of pure pleasure rather than procreation. Do gay guys really want to give up what is most attractive – to males, at any rate – about their recreational activities, the tremendous sense of freedom it implies?

It sure sounds like he's repeating the "gay men are inherently promiscuous and don't want commitment" stereotype to me.

Anonymous said...

Believing that a given stereotype is neutral or even possible doesn't mean that it's not a stereotype anymore. That article is based on so many overt stereotypes and generalizations it makes me twitch that people could take it seriously. Furthermore, even if we accept that there are more gay men who don't want monogamy than there are those who do, why does it make sense to honestly believe that those who don't want it will still get married?

And also, yes, there is such a thing as internalized homophobia and heterosexism.
-Peace